The humorous point in my scenario is that the TB is the same in the Gen three 3SGE TB however the manifold created a lot of the difference. I don?t even miss the ACIS at this point. Tomg stated: Didnt they go even larger ports around the caldina relative to the main/2nd gen 3sge?I assume inevitably I must be on the lookout in the 3SGTE, even so the